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Discussion Forums => Iron Chelation Corner => Topic started by: Pratik on June 17, 2017, 01:43:21 AM



Title: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Pratik on June 17, 2017, 01:43:21 AM
Anyone has heard of this new chelator by Novartis? I went to Dr Ramanan in Pune recently and he recommended this to me. It's costly but said to be more effective than exjade.

The internet has almost no info about it.

Andy, have you heard of this drug?


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Parin on June 18, 2017, 01:16:11 AM
I think its oral chelator and in India may be called by name Oleptis. Here in USA Novartis called oral chelator as a Jadenu


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Pratik on June 18, 2017, 06:26:10 AM
Jadenu is available here too.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Andy Battaglia on June 24, 2017, 12:27:59 PM
Is the spelling correct? I can't find any mention of it online, other than here.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Pratik on June 26, 2017, 08:46:14 AM
Is the spelling correct? I can't find any mention of it online, other than here.
I believe it's correct. I couldn't find anything too.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Mukta on July 25, 2017, 02:14:44 AM
There seems to be a seminar happening in Mumbai in September on this medicine. Please find the attachment for more details. Is this jadenu that had been renamed to oleptiss.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Dharmesh on July 25, 2017, 03:11:39 AM
The correct name is "Oleptiss" and it's indian version of Jadenu. Dr M B Agarwal is organising the seminar on Sept 9, 2017 at Mumbai


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Pratik on July 26, 2017, 12:01:35 AM
Thanks for the information. Let's hope it's more effective than Exjade.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 26, 2017, 05:13:29 PM
It's the same exact drug as Exjade in a different form that makes it easier to take.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Mukta on July 27, 2017, 03:21:58 AM
The only question I have does anyone know if its right now available in India or its going to be released soon. I can't find the medicine in any online store.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Dharmesh on July 28, 2017, 05:54:38 AM
No, right now it is not available in India. But it will be launched soon in India named as Oleptiss


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: catchR on September 11, 2017, 05:48:47 AM
I had attended the conference organized by Dr. MB Agarwal in Mumbai and was quite surprised to hear that Oleptiss was already available across India and some of his patient have been on Oleptiss for atleast past2-3 months.

regards,
R


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Dharmesh on September 11, 2017, 07:19:06 AM
Yes, it is available in India and Dr R had already started prescribing to patients.
It's around Rs 5800 (don't remember the exact figure) for 260 mg tab so out of reach of 99.99% patients.

I was also there at seminar


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Andy Battaglia on September 14, 2017, 06:12:14 PM
Did anyone mention if there is any possibility that an Indian company will manufacture the drug at a more affordable cost, as is the case with Kelfer and Desirox?


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Dharmesh on September 15, 2017, 01:25:08 AM
Did not get a single word on generic version of Oleptiss.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Canadian_Family on September 15, 2017, 11:40:37 AM
Yes, it is available in India and Dr R had already started prescribing to patients.
It's around Rs 5800 (don't remember the exact figure) for 260 mg tab so out of reach of 99.99% patients.

I was also there at seminar

It breaks my heart to see that most patients in India cannot afford Jadenu. I have children and I cannot imagine the pain parents feel of not affording a drug at this cost. If a patient is taking 500mg per day, it will cost them approx. Rs 11,000 or approx. $18 per day. May be if you can re-confirm the price....it sounds unreasonable....


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Dharmesh on September 23, 2017, 10:06:27 AM
No need to break the heart at all !!!!!

We have so many options namely defrijet/desirox aka Exjade (available free of cost in my state i.e. Gujarat) We have free desferal , we have Kelfer aka L1 at a concessional rate. Even the govt is helping financially for BMT nowadays....

At the same time the Rs 11000 cost may be ok but tell me how many patients are taking ONLY 500 mg ???
Here adult patients are taking 4-5 tabs of 500 mg each daily for 50 kg weight , then what will be the cost ?? Rs 55000 woooo , Dear oleptiss please stay away from me as even i don't want to touch you and m happy with defrijet (orange flavor)

and Rs 30000 was the amount written by Dr R in FB post...
So please don't be sad... The MNCs are not gonna making money here....





PS : Are you playing dandiya in this Navratri (Nine nights) festival???


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Andy Battaglia on September 23, 2017, 02:21:18 PM
If a generic form does not appear, it seems Oleptiss will not be affordable for most Indian patients.

Strangely, I have heard from several people who were fine with Exjade but could not tolerate Jadenu.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Nomad on September 23, 2017, 03:22:15 PM
Hmm


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Sunny2701 on September 26, 2017, 03:57:40 AM
No need to break the heart at all !!!!!

We have so many options namely defrijet/desirox aka Exjade (available free of cost in my state i.e. Gujarat) We have free desferal , we have Kelfer aka L1 at a concessional rate. Even the govt is helping financially for BMT nowadays....

At the same time the Rs 11000 cost may be ok but tell me how many patients are taking ONLY 500 mg ???
Here adult patients are taking 4-5 tabs of 500 mg each daily for 50 kg weight , then what will be the cost ?? Rs 55000 woooo , Dear oleptiss please stay away from me as even i don't want to touch you and m happy with defrijet (orange flavor)

and Rs 30000 was the amount written by Dr R in FB post...
So please don't be sad... The MNCs are not gonna making money here....





PS : Are you playing dandiya in this Navratri (Nine nights) festival???

As per doctor agarwal,  only 1 tablet of oleptus will be needed per day.  If that is the case,  than the cost of the tablet will come down considerably. Also he justified the cost by saying that the management of other iron chelators is a tedious job,  as you are required to fast before taking the tablet,  however this is not the case with oleptus,  it can be taken with food or drinks,  anytime of the day without fasting,  it can be sprinkled on the food and eaten. This helps in managing chelation better. 

What he meant is in the long run,  oleptus will help save costs from treatment of other complications that may happen by missing dosage on other chelators.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Nomad on September 26, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
Hey everyone, something has happened to my last post. I was just saying that in my case it is the opposite, I have better results on Ferritin and LIC with Jadenu than I have had with exjade. This makes me think again that beside Thalassaemia we are all individuals who do not always  respond same...


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Dharmesh on September 26, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
As per doctor agarwal,  only 1 tablet of oleptus will be needed per day.
Lol...

Andy,
Is it correct?


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Andy Battaglia on October 06, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
It isn't correct. If it is the same as Jadenu, the dose is based on weight, as with all chelators.


Title: Re: Novartis Oleptis
Post by: Pratik on December 01, 2017, 04:53:05 AM
No need to break the heart at all !!!!!

We have so many options namely defrijet/desirox aka Exjade (available free of cost in my state i.e. Gujarat) We have free desferal , we have Kelfer aka L1 at a concessional rate. Even the govt is helping financially for BMT nowadays....

At the same time the Rs 11000 cost may be ok but tell me how many patients are taking ONLY 500 mg ???
Here adult patients are taking 4-5 tabs of 500 mg each daily for 50 kg weight , then what will be the cost ?? Rs 55000 woooo , Dear oleptiss please stay away from me as even i don't want to touch you and m happy with defrijet (orange flavor)

and Rs 30000 was the amount written by Dr R in FB post...
So please don't be sad... The MNCs are not gonna making money here....





PS : Are you playing dandiya in this Navratri (Nine nights) festival???
Hi man,

Where is it available for free? Can you share it please?

Thanks!