Iron Chelation Drugs

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Iron Chelation Drugs
« on: March 23, 2012, 04:37:36 AM »
There are currently three iron chelation drugs available. (This will change, as more drugs are introduced).
1) Deferoxamine (Desferal). Given as a subcutaneous infusion. Given by IV when high iron load is significantly affecting heart function.
2) Deferiprone. (L1, Ferriprox, Kelfer). Taken as an oral medication 3 times daily at a dose of 75 mg/kg. Has been shown to be the most effective chelator for cardiac iron and also has a cardioprotective effect. Not as effective as desferal in the liver, but does control liver iron concentrations at acceptable levels.
3) Deferasirox. (Exjade, Asunra, Desirox). Taken orally. Novartis recommends it once daily. 30 mg/kg daily. (Recent studies have shown a dose of 32.6 mg/kg daily, effectively maintains low ferritin levels). For high ferritin levels, a dose of 40 mg/kg is required, if tolerated. If not, a different chelation drug or combination should be considered. Notes for starting on any of the deferasirox drugs: Do not start out at 30 mg/kg. Start at 10-15 mg/kg daily, so that the body becomes accustomed to the drug. This reduces the incidence of the common rash and also allows the stomach time to adjust to the new med. After 2 weeks, try raising the dose. If no side effects are seen, keep the dose at the prescribed amount. Deferasirox alone, may not be the best choice for high ferritin patients. Ongoing informal trials by members of thalpal have shown that splitting the dose into two, taking half in morning and half later in the day, make deferasirox more tolerable and also more effective. Parents have been pleased with the progress their children are making when they split the dose. Also, after more testing, Novartis has expanded the list, so a variety of juices and soft foods are acceptable for mixing purposes. 
Patience is often needed when using deferasirox. Many patients with high iron show little to no progress in ferritin levels during their first year on deferasirox. However, in most of these cases, substantial progress will be noted in the second year. Many make the mistake of giving up too early. If a higher iron load exists in the organs, it will take some time to reverse, but the drug does work for most patients, as long as they are fully compliant. 40 mg/kg may be required.

The most effective chelation method currently known is a combination of desferal and deferiprone. This is the quickest way to reduce iron loads and to clean iron from the organs. The dosages will depend on the individual's iron load, as measured by T2* and MRI. For patients with high iron loads, this combination gets the highest rating.
There have been small trials involving desferal and deferasirox. These trials have had positive results. Patients experienced a drop in iron loads, when using only one chelator could not reduce the ferritin level to acceptable ranges. Currently a ferritin of 500 is considered an acceptable load. If frequent monitoring is available, ferritins in the 100-300 range are reasonable goals. No new side effects have been seen with this combination. It should be considered in patients whose iron load is not under control, using one of the drugs alone.
Deferasirox and deferiprone have been in small trials together for short periods. While it appears that it may be an effective combination, not enough is known about long term effects on the kidneys and liver to recommend this at this time.

When heart function is greatly reduced and cardiac failure is likely, the patient should be put on IV desferal 24/7.


What is best? That depends on the patient. Many patients will not stay compliant with desferal, and the oral chelators prove a valuable substitute. When it comes to chelation in the real world where patients are often less than fully compliant, a "whatever works" philosophy may be needed. Being flexible and innovative in establishing good compliance routines may be needed for some patients. In the end, this may determine whether a patient lives or dies. Most authorities believe that patients should not be on just one chelator during their lifetimes, as switching helps to minimize the long term side effects of the drugs. For those counseling thals about compliance, flexibility is necessary. Stubborn insistence on a specific chelator when the patient will not comply has led to the deaths of many thalassemics.

* All chelators have known side effects, which can be seen by searching for that particular drug online. When a drug is unsuitable for that patient, another chelator must be used.
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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 06:02:17 AM »

Perfectly summarised, Andy! Thank you!

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 06:27:36 AM »
This post was originally posted on Facebook thalpal. I have been seeing a lot of incomplete and incorrect information and felt there was a need for a succinct summary of the chelation drugs currently available. I feel that the most important aspect is often forgotten; compliance. And finding some way to comply is the most essential thing. For example, I have questions about the long term use of Exjade, but I cannot argue with the fact that the availability of Exjade has greatly increased compliance. I do hesitate to advise it in some older patients, but for younger patients, I see it as the drug that has liberated patients and parents from the desferal ordeal, and I see it has tremendous value, just as Ferriprox and Kelfer have had for many years.

I also want to note that info about 32.6 mg/kg for Exjade. For those who seem to plateau in the 1000-2000 ferritin range, you might consider upping the dose slightly. For the additional amount to reach this ratio multiply 2.6 times the weight of the person times 7. This will give you the approximate extra dosage needed to reach 32.6 mg/kg. On average, it may be about two extra tabs per week. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who tries this ratio with Exjade.
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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 11:45:15 PM »
This is great Andy - every parent should get a copy of this when their child is diagnosed. 

Sharmin
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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 06:04:33 AM »
Andy,


please explain to us: why you seem to be reluctant to exjade given to older patients?


Lena

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 07:43:42 AM »
Andy,

I never had such precise information about the chelators before.I am giving my son 2days ferripro and then 2days asunra as he has nausea if he takes ferripro more than 2days.Is this ok.

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 02:32:21 PM »
Lena,

I had missed your post. I am hesitant to suggest Exjade for older thals because a majority of older thals already have compromised livers due to hepatitis and because the vast majority of deaths associated with Exjade are in older patients with MDS (myelodysplastic syndrome), but not all have MDS.

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/PostmarketDrugSafetyInformationforPatientsandProviders/DrugSafetyInformationforHeathcareProfessionals/ucm183651.htm
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FDA is reviewing adverse event information for Exjade from a database that tracks all patients who are prescribed Exjade and a company-sponsored global safety database.  This information suggests there may be a greater risk for adverse events such as kidney failure, gastrointestinal hemorrhage (potentially fatal bleeding) and deaths in patients with myelodysplastic syndrome (MDS) compared to patients without these conditions.  Many of these patients are over age 60 and the adverse events are problems that are not uncommon in people with MDS. The number of deaths and serious adverse events seem to be fewer in younger patients with other chronic anemias such as β Thalassemia and Sickle Cell disease.
I am not comfortable with the line "...seem to be fewer.." as this does imply deaths among thal patients. Again, I feel that a patient, such as yourself, who is in a treatment program with very close monitoring, has much less chance of complications, most patients are not as closely monitored. So, I remain somewhat uncomfortable with a blanket recommendation of Exjade for older patients and a strong warning to parents of children to watch for drops in Hb level when a child is using Exjade, as this is most likely related to gastrointestinal bleeding. Lena, I would feel so much better if all patient were as closely monitored as you. I also feel that if an older patient's iron load is under control on another chelator or combination without any serious side effects, there is no good justification for switching to Exjade.

Shaista,

Alternating chelators to reduce side effects is a long accepted practice, even if the combination you are using is not yet accepted, due to lack of trials. Please do promise to always have the required monthly tests done.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 02:39:24 PM by Andy »
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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2012, 06:20:57 PM »
Andy,

I just saw your post. Thank you very much for the info. I completely agree with your suggestion to prefer any other monotherapy or combination therapy instead of an exjade including chelation therapy. I am glad I have at last concluded as to that and never again wonder whether I should use exjade or not. Anyway, my doctor seems to have the same opinion on that issue. Thanks again,

Lena

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 11:15:30 AM »
Hi,

I am giving Mohib 1500mg of exjade and asunra 800mg on 2days alternate pattern.But mohib is getting lethargic,having body aches and nausea.He even refused to take any other supplement.Is it bcoz of chelation drugs.What wii u people suggest

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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 11:02:51 PM »
Is it possible it's something like a cold? If he is having nausea, you might want to stop the chelators until the nausea passed. And always make sure he takes plenty of fluid daily. This is very important when using chelation drugs.
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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 10:39:13 PM »
Thank you so much Andy!

My doctor always tells me to use both Ferriprox and Desferal together but I never understood why!

Thank you for the clarification!

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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 11:45:19 PM »
Fatima,

The desferal/Ferriprox combination has been proven over and over to be the most effective chelation for removing iron from both heart and liver. When your doctor tells you this, it shows that your doctor is well informed on the subject, which is quite comforting to know.
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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 09:24:19 AM »
Hello!
I just want to ask which of the chelators can most probably be cheaper but less side effects? My iron is about 1600+ last dec. but I haven't checked it again and I also haven't started the chelation therapy.. Thanks!

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Re: Iron Chelation Drugs
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2012, 10:37:18 AM »
Hello!
I just want to ask which of the chelators can most probably be cheaper but less side effects? My iron is about 1600+ last dec. but I haven't checked it again and I also haven't started the chelation therapy.. Thanks!
Hi Cherry Mar,
L1 (Defriprone/Ferriprox/Kelfer) is a relatively cheaper chelator than Desferal and Exjade. All the 3 chelators i.e. Ferriprox, Desferal and Exjade have side effects.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2012, 11:15:44 AM »
thank you Dharmesh!
 what could be the most side effects that i can get from taking this chelators? and may I ask if the swelling of my feet sometimes and muscle cramps have to do with my iron overload or thal condition?

 

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