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Vitamin and Mineral Supplementation in Thalassemia
SF:
BTW, the multivit I bought yesterday is comparable to Centrum Silver but is Walgreens brand.
It's made especially for Adults over 50. But, I think the main difference between regular and Silver Supplements is that it does not contain iron. Also, I'm glad to know that it contains no gelatin that I won't take. The source of gelatin is white fish which is totally fine!
Please do let me know how many tabs I should take a day and whether it sounds like a good supplement?
Thanks!
T @ r ! Q:
SF,
--- Quote from: SF on April 23, 2009, 07:43:39 AM ---Vit C (75 mg)
Vit E (70 IU, it's dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, not d-alpha)
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Vit E is very less in it i think. I take 400 I.U daily and dose upto 600 I.U is considered safe (if natural vit e is used)
Regarding Vit-C, I've seen a spike (a big one) in my S.feritin in the past six months while i was taking around 100 mg Vit C daily and also vit-c is only recommended with DFO so you will not be able to take this supplement on the day you are not on DFO. While i did some research on it i found out that Vit-C is not recommended to patients with high ferritin and specially if they have overload in heart. Our forum experts can shed some more light on it
nice friend:
SF n Tariq,
:agree to Tariq bhai , that it has realy small ammount of vit-e , ... and you can take upto 600mg ( i m talking about Natural Vitamin E ) ... but you can't take high doses of Dl-Alpha tocopheryl acetate ( synthetic one ) .. i dont remember but Andy has mentioned it somewhere .. Got it ..
--- Quote ---Not only is synthetic vitamin E much less efficient, but it shouldn't be taken in high doses. When taking more than 100 IU of E daily, it needs to be natural E. My doctor now warns against using synthetic E in high doses.
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and as for vitamin-c , i believe that you can take this multi-vitamnin twice while you are on chelation with DFO IF ( a big IF ) you're not already having alot of iron in your Blood stream ( S.fe show's the iron in blood , if i m not wrong ) , so i think that if you're having alot of iron in your blood stream then you dont need to add up more iron in your blood stream to chelate , i think you can start vitamin-C in the case your S.fe come's reayl down then ( and if urine colour isn't changing during cheltaion ) . other wise it could harm your heart ... its my opinion dont know if you're gonna agree r not but its wat i think ....
PS , be careful with medicine dont forget to ask your doc bfore dooing anything related to the medicini ....
Best Regards
Take care
Umair
SF:
Sharmin, Tariq, and Umair,
Thanks for all your feedback. :hugfriend
After reading Tariq and Umair's posts, now I'm confused whether I want to take this multivitamin or look for a better one with natural vit E and hopefully no vit C or at least a lot less of it.. :dunno I like lemon/lime and drink OJ and have other citrus stuff, so, I don't want to add to my current daily intake of Vit C through supplements.
Even if Vit C is bad (in large quantities) for us, don't we still need at least 100% DV of Vit C for normal function? In other words, is it ok not to worry too much about Vit C we're getting in our diet, but just don't take more through supplements?
Regards,
SF
nice friend:
--- Quote ---Vit E (70 IU, it's dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, not d-alpha)
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--- Quote ---When taking more than 100 IU of E daily, it needs to be natural E. My doctor now warns against using synthetic E in high doses
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Hi SF,
you can take this supplement although it har synthetic Vit-E according to the quote from Andy , i think you can take 100IU synthetic and its not a probleme or or good reason to left that supplement you found ... that has only 70IU synthetic Vit-E ( much less than 100 na ) ad Andy's doctor warned him for taking more than 100IU synthetic oone .... hey about vit-C , i have another option , Guava a medium size guava contains's 125 mg of vit-C in it , i think nothing is better than this natural vit-c supplement and yes orange is also a fine choice as a medium size orange has 136mg iron if you ... when my S.FE was a little high and i was asking for the permission to my doctor to start Vit-C even for lower doses , she always said no ( coze i was and still sometimes have the symptoms of Congestive heart failure ) , but once she said " if you wana start vit-C then you can take an orange or guava for that reason ... isearched on internet and found that Guava and orange has the almost same vlue of daily vit-C intake that people are saying to take (daily intake 100-125mg in dividend doses, and for chelation day its upto 200mg in dividend doses , ) ..
--- Quote ---In addition to above, I also take Calcium + Vit D Supplement that contains the following:
Vit D (400 IU)
Calcium (600 mg)
Magnesium (40 mg)
Zinc (7.5 mg)
Copper (1 mg)
Manganese (1.8 mg)
Boron (250 mcg)
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you can take Osteocare as a replacement of this supplemetn you mentioned ... please vist their site to read complete details ....
about first mult-ivitamin :
as you're compliant with chelation and doing it 5 days a week , you can take this suppllement once just after starting chelation ,,,.... its my personal opinion soo please consult your doc before doing anything or starting any supplement ... i always ask to my doc first before satrting anything new ( i asked even before starting osteocare ) so it will be best to ask your doc first , but after gathering the info about a few good supplements , soo it will bcome easy for your doc to chose one of those good supplements ....
Best Regards
Take Care
Umair
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