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Can Supplements Help Everyone and Not Only Thals?
Andy Battaglia:
I cannot agree that there is any chance that three vitamin D shots could possibly raise Zaini's level to a dangerous range. Her doctor knows the proper procedure and is following it. Zaini's vitamin D level is only 8, and is classified as "severe". It is very likely that she is going to need longer term therapy with vitamin D to correct this. Normal is in the 30-60 range. The low end of this range has been bumped up during the past year with the statement that it may be raised again, as more research confirms the body's true need for vitamin D. She has a long way to go just to get to normal, let alone a high level. In the study I quoted, only 21 out of 71 women reached the normal level after three months of vitamin D therapy. I have been fighting low D for 5 years with 1000 IU of D daily until October, 2008 when I started on 2000 IU daily, and my level is still only up to 19. As of the first week of June, I am now taking 3000 IU daily as advised by my doctor, with the understanding that the shots are next if I am not up to normal in six months. Even if Zaini's level can be brought up to normal, she may require an occasional shot of D to stay at that level. With low vitamin D levels, hypocalcemia is more likely and it would be a good idea to have the calcium level tested also. Low phosphorus levels are also consistent with low vitamin D, so for the health of the bones, getting the D level up is very important.
There are many reasons people can find themselves low in D.
http://www.clinlabnavigator.com/Tests/VitaminD.html
--- Quote --- * Live in latitudes >35o from the equator
* Live in heavily polluted cities
* Belong to cultures that require clothing that covers their entire body
* Are institutionalized or homebound
* Have dark skin
* Apply sunscreen compulsively
* Are elderly (decreased skin synthesis)
* Are obese (vitamin accumulates in fat)
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By the way, sunlight through glass will not give you much vitamin D, so if one mainly gets sun through a window, it can be added as another factor contributing to deficiency.
nice friend:
Thanks Andy for clearifying this all , :) :thankyou2
Best Regards
Umair
Bigg:
--- Quote from: Manal on June 26, 2009, 12:25:29 AM ---Can you imagine we don't have this simple test here and the majority of all the vitamins except for vitamin B6 and B12 only. We have to send them either to Germany or France.
When i asked the lab technician, he just said, no doctor order these and therefore why should we buy their kits, especially that they will cost more if there is no mass demand on them.
The logic says that doctors should first investigate vitmain and mineral deficiency before diagnoising any symtpoms cause it could be nothing serious except vitamin deficiency :mad
manal
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That's how it is - people have only deficiencies of B12 and D vitamins (it is strange that they even do B6 vitamin). These deficiencies are common, because vitamin B12 is not easily absorbed and vitamin D is also not easy to obtain by the body (as described here...). Other vitamins do not have to be tested, because they are water souluble, easy to excrete (you can't overdose these, as they are water soluble and easy to excrete) and accessible from food in large quatnities. So the common scenario for tratment is just prescribing multi vitamin B without any tests - the levels will normalize after such supplementation.
Almost the same applies to other vitamins (A, E) - they are readily accessible from food.
It would be nice to be able to test it all - not only vitamins - but this may be possible in 10-20 years, when there will be available whole panels of tests at price of today's one test. These are called lab on chip.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lab-on-a-chip
B.
Zaini:
Umair, Andy is right,i am on very severe deficient side,in m personal opinion it will take more then 3 shots to cover it,i'll ask the doctor again,she has also prescribed me " ONE-Alpha" or "Alfacalcidol" which is supposed to correct the deficiency,but it says only 0.5 mcg,i am not sure how much does it make in IU,but it seems like its not much ???
About sunlight,what Manal said is right,i have two balconies in my apartment,and each one of them is full of sunlight at one time of the day,like one has sunlight in morning the other in afternoon,but the problem is temperature and humidity,sun is so scorching here that its hard to sit out there,i'll try to try it in the morning :) .
Another thing is again as Manal said,people are not aware of how important it is to get Vitamin D,how important it is for bones and for fighting of cancers,as i told you guys earlier,my mother's level was 22,and personally i thought that she should be put on atleast 1000 IU daily,but the doctor said that osteocare is enough ??? i don't think so,what do you say Andy?.
Zaini.
Dori:
--- Quote from: Manal on June 28, 2009, 12:55:45 AM ---
If you have a look on any of the beaches here , you will find that only tourists (American or Europeans) are the one who are having sun tans andthe natives are hiding under umbrellas :rotfl
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They have the highest population with skin cancers risks. There are here huge campagnes to warn people, but it doesn't help at all.
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