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Thalassemia - Wheat Grass Clinical Studies 2004 -2010
7assan:
Hi Akita how are i hope doing will .
So, sorry, i can not tell you how much this tablet will help. Do you know the brand, how many mg has one tablet?
yeah ther waw many brand , ther was 500,250 ,120
How much of them are in one serving?
i dont know mybe 100 or 120
Is it expensive?
not that much but ther was many brand
Could you or your brother buy one by internet?
can u give any website plz
Why not growing wheat grass indoor at home? (Not possible?)
yeah not possible
How is your health status actually
my bro is healthey and he dont look thalassemia at all
Akita:
Hi dear,
1. Company: the webside is
www.greenheartindia.com
This is the enterprise from which the hospital in Amritsar bought the wheat grass tablets for the then successful study on Hb, transfusion intervals, and amount of transfused blood packs, number one in my first posting.
Today i phoned to the company. They did not know that they are mentioned in a study. They sold to hospitals for several times in the past in Bombay, Pune, etc.., but never learned about the outcome. So i emailed the studies to them.
The owner told me that the wheat grass plants are harvested when they are 7 -8 days old. This is a good time also for iron chelating, but also for the other purposes. You can buy tablets or powder. They deliver also to abroad countries. The purchase prize has to be payed in advance by an indian bank account or by Western Union, Moneytransfer.. The shipping needs 15 or 30 days. But 15 days ist much more expensive.
Actually i wrote an email to the enterprise asking for details of the products concerning different packages, different ingredients for tablets. i will write it in the forum once i have an answer.
2. Ingredients of the tablets - which are the best?
Today i phoned to a professor at the University of Vienna, Department of Pharmacognosy and asked, how much it would cost to analyse some wheat grass tablets for their components. He told me, that a full analysis would take 3-4 years and cost 4000 Euros per month. But there would always be the problem, that natural products like wheatgrass have different qualities of ingredients depending on the weather and the climate where the plants have grown (sun, rain, hot, not so hot..) So when you make an analysis, it would be not valid for the next package of the same firm...
3. Which quantity of tablets per day is the optimum, should be taken for success?
This evening i wrote an email to the correspondending doctor of the Wheat Grass Study 2010 (my first email in this thread, asking him for the advisable quantity for adults and young people older than 10. Is it per kg bodyweight ? And then, how much? I hope that i will get an answer soon.
So we will have to wait for one or two another days...
Good night, in Vienna its actually 10 pm.
Margarete
Akita:
Hi,
the corresponding medician of the wheat grass studie 2010 did not respond to my email. Its perhaps very important to know the right quantity of tablets to take for special "thal-purposes", this seems me to me a bigger quantity than taken für general health purposes.
To some extent it seems possible to read about the quantities from the studies Thal - 2009 and Thal 2010 and MDS 2009. But as i am not an medical doctor, i would like to obtain an advice by a doctor in this matter,sort of "second opinion", not to read the studies alone..
So i contacted my hematologist and sent him the links to the studies. He forwarded it to another doctor. But he told me, that he in my position never would write in the internet at all. OK...
So i contacted my doctor/general practicioner whom i asked to give me advice in this matter. He asked for an reader with all the links/studies printed out.. I will do this this week-end and give him the reader beginning of next week. If not him, anybody else, a doctor, will tell me his opinion about best quantity for wheat grass tablets...
So it will last another some days...sorry
Margarete
Akita:
The answer of www.greenheartindia.com was:
Eden Park" <edenpark@vsnl.com>
An:"Margarete Aulehla" <MAulehla@gmx.at>Betreff:Re: The Studies concerning Wheat GrassDatum:Wed, 17. Nov 2010 13:30:07
Dear Madam,
Thank you for your mails. Also thank you for your telephone call..
Will go through the articles which you have mentioned.
Regarding our wheat grass powder
.
Family pack contains 120 sachets each having 2 grams of wheat grass powder.
(cost in Indian Rupees 800 per pack exclusive of taxes and shipping)
Product code- WGF
Tablets each bottle contains 120 tablets each of 500mg.(cost in Indian
Rupees 220 per bottle ) Product code WGT-2.
As explained we can send a few packs at a time so it becomes economical .
Please feel free to email me with any queries.
Regards
Gopinath Pillai
Dear Madam,
In the previous mail I have mentioned only the WGF and WGT -2
Please also note the following
WGM contains 30 sachets 2 gms each Cost Indian Rupees 220/=
WGT-1 contains 60 tablets each of 500 mg Cost Indian Rupees 120/= per
bottle.
Akita:
Dear Forum,
my general practicioner answered after having read at least a part of the studies::
It ist not possible to recommend a certain quantity of the wheat grass juice, tablets, powder. In his view, wheat grass is not a medicament for which it is necessary to know the exact components. The helping ingredients must be uniquely defined. As there does not exist such a definition for wheat grass, one cannot know which quantity would be best for the particular person.
But he agreed to my view that in that case it is possible to indicate the quantities used by the wheat grass studies, - as an information, not a recommendation.
Referring to my posting on November,10, the quantities used in the studies are:
-Study 1. 2010: (successful)
Wheat grass tablets 500 mg from Greenheartindia.com, for
- Patients in the dose of 2-3,6 and 8 tablets per day in
divided doses in children aged 1-3 yr, 4-8 yr and >8 yr
respectively (1 tablet=500 mg).
(that is: more than one dose per day/divided, children:1-3yr 2-3 tablets,
children 4-8 yr 6 tablets, children older than 8 yrs 8 tablets per day; oldest child: 16 yrs, on empty stomach)
Study 2 2009:(not successful)
Wheat grass tablets 500mg, patients median 16 years old, 100 or 200 mg/ per Kilogramm bodyweight and day. Quentities were well tolerated.
Study 4 (successful)
"Wheat Grass Juice: Family of the patients raised the wheat grass at home, in the kitchen garden or in earthen pots. The sprouts were harvested when they were 5-6" tall, grounded and the juice extracted by sieving. About 100 mL of freshly extracted wheat grass juice was consumed daily. No specific variety of wheat grass was used. "
Extra Study (successful): " The role of iron chelation activity of wheat grass juice in patients with myelodysplastic syndrome, ASCO 2009
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/Meetings/Abstracts?&vmview=abst_detail_view&confID=65&abstractID=33788
Citation of the presentation of this study by Soma Mukhopadhyay:
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedia/Virtual+Meeting?&vmview=vm_session_presentations_view&confID=65&sessionID=3112
Dose for adults (were 42-73 yrs old)
Dose: 7-8 days old wheat grass fresh leaves and stems in aqueous solution.
30 ml fresh juice (approx. 5 g leaves) 2-3 times daily for continuous 6 months
The duration of intake in the studies was from 6 months to 1 1/2 years
So, thats the information, i hope this helps,
Best regards,
Margarete
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