Thalassemia Patients and Friends

Discussion Forums => Diet, Nutrition and Supplements => Topic started by: Sharmin on November 24, 2009, 05:04:58 PM

Title: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemia
Post by: Sharmin on November 24, 2009, 05:04:58 PM
I have uploaded some slides from the New York Conference (please see Gallery - reference pictures). 

The first slide outlines the role of zinc in bone density.  The second lists various vitamin deficiencies and their effect on immunity.  

From the conference I have learned that there is little doubt that vitamin supplements are essential in preventing many of the complications in thalassemia - how much and how to supplement may need to be fine tuned.  

For my son, I have started to split his vitamin supplements so that he takes them twice a day.  This has made it much easier on his stomach.  

Sharmin
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Lena on November 25, 2009, 05:38:40 AM

 You are right, Sharmin. Not only easier on the stomach but also coverage on a 24hour basis. That means  vitamins in our bodies all day long, which is essential.

Lena.
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Zaini on November 25, 2009, 06:07:27 AM
Hmmm,I'll have to work that out with Lil Z .

Zaini.
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Sharmin on November 25, 2009, 06:33:46 AM
I am giving lil A many supplements - in addition to 1000mg of exjade each night.  His stomach hurts quite a bit.  Today I gave him the second half of his dose in the evening - and he threw it up just before his hockey game.  I am going to have to find a better way to give him his supplements.  Perhaps even to give him a break for a week or so from some of them.  Maybe I will only give him the vit D, B complex and cal/mag for the next week. 

I think it is making him quite miserable having a tummy ache all of the time. 

Sharmin
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Lena on November 25, 2009, 06:37:37 AM

 Stomach problems are to be  avoided. If his stomach is aching all the time, it will lead to permanent stomach trouble. That's not good.

Lena.
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemia
Post by: Andy Battaglia on November 25, 2009, 06:47:13 AM
Sharmin,

In addition to having short supplement vacations, another ongoing method is to not take each supplement every day. Some can be taken every other day. Some can be taken on weekdays only. By doing this, he will be taking fewer pills each day. Splitting doses between morning and evening is also important, as is avoiding taking most supplements on an empty stomach. I also think some things are better to just get from food. Things like turmeric and cinnamon, for example, can be had by diet and don't necessarily require supplementation. Experimenting with different times of day may help with Exjade tolerance.
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Lena on November 25, 2009, 07:17:58 AM

 This is one issue we have to discuss: some supplements, like zinc, require an empty stomach for a better absorption. Of course, they are only few. And for those who are on ferriprox chelation therapy, like myself, that means you have to take 10 ferriprox pills per day plus any other supplement and vitamin. Too much, don't you think?

I agree curcumin and cinnamon being taken from food, that's what I'll try to do from now on.

Lena.
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemia
Post by: Prets on November 25, 2009, 09:21:06 AM
Sharmin,

I always take very low dose vitamins/medicines as its the only thing my body can tolerate. One thing that works for me is to start a low dose pill to begin with, then gradually work it up.

Like if i need to take 2 multivitamin pills a day, I start by taking half a pill (or a lower strength) once a week, then i increase it up to twice a week and so on. when I am sure i have adjusted to a certain dose, then i make the next increase, till i finally achieve the actual dose I am required to take.

With practice you can judge which pills can be taken together comfortably.

Hope this helps.

 :smiley
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Sharmin on November 25, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
Thank you Lena, Andy and Preety.  I think that taking too many supplements is causing stomach aches, which is leading to crankiness and decreased appetite.  I try supplementing every second day with certain supplements, splitting doses and giving certain supplements only during weekdays. 

Sharmin
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Waleed on December 01, 2009, 11:22:26 PM
IM DOING BODYBUILDING ......... and for that i take 2multivitamin tablets that include 9 minerals n 9 vitamins and whey protein.......... other factors of my diets include

carbohydrates ... potatoes,bananas,milk,bread

proteins ... eggs, milk, chicken , mince meat

fats ... sunflower and olive oil  /////          vitamins n dietry fibers SALAD ..... bananas

i total hav intake of around 4000 cals with protein 200g every day .................... and wow wut a metabolism speed im having
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Zaini on December 02, 2009, 05:36:55 AM
Waleed,

You are taking meat?
Title: Re: The role of nutrients and the effects of nutrient deficiencies in thalassemi
Post by: Waleed on December 02, 2009, 03:51:47 PM
Waleed,

You are taking meat?

yup but white meat chicken only ... red meat only once or twice or maximum thrice per week ...  red meat has lower protein and higher cholestrol n fat than the chicken