Thalassemia Patients and Friends
Discussion Forums => Living with Thalassemia => Topic started by: Waleed on November 29, 2009, 11:18:09 PM
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Assalam u alaikum to every one...
As many here may know that i remain bz in my university life so dont get much time to touch here in forum .... but today on occasion of eid i thought its a right chance to cum up here and hav sum time here on forum ..... i got weaker and weaker 7 months back ... and to gain weight back i know what to do ..it ws BODYBUILDING ...and yes being thal major it didnt stop me to step into my gym and i would like to share with u guyz that i gained 9kgs/19.8lbs in 7months just cuz of right training and diet which is a gr8 achievement for not only as a patient but for any normal person that wud gain that weight in such period ....
i know what im saying i know patients here have weaker bones osteoporosis ... but wut i hav come upto that if we train and eat right keeping iron in control it will be really very very helpful for our health ...... i'll post my pics here to make u judge urself (hope i do it soon lol) ... right now no where this guy looks thalassemic at all ..... just 7 months into training and a guy short and light as 5'2" started 41kg into 50 kg and lifting benchpress of 50KG i thing is gr8 ........ this is all written not to praise myself but for the sole reasn that if I CAN DO ... Y CANT V ALL ???? AND I WANT TO SEE THAL MAJORS CUMING UP that way so WE ALL Add real fitness to our lives .......................any any any sort of help by thals on how to start training how to train wut to eat and especially how a thalassemic can deal with it is all here ....
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Hi Waleed,
Weight training will make your bones stronger, so it lessens the threat of osteo problems. You're showing that this is an excellent exercise for thals.
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Thats great Waleed,keep it up :thumbsup .
Zaini.
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Way to go Waleed. Keep up the good work.
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yeah not only will it make bones stronger but i am feeling things very differnently than b4...
ppl look at u in different way than b4 cuz of ur improved health ... i remember previously whenever i was in normal or casual dress , any girl wudnt giv second look. .... but now its the same guy with different hair cut,wearing 60rs. sunglasses n riding honda 70(bike) and there's no eye that didnt give 2nd look ..... ( i m a fundamentalist and dont look at girls cuz its prohibited but i just noticed it really ) ....
YOU look in different way to other's body ... men who were seen healthy by me are no longer that way and now its easy for me to point out weak or strong body parts of other ppl ...
Lets say cramps and pumps u feel in ur body parts is an Amazing feeling for me as it just let me feel that im Much much stronger n powerfull ...
I always feel charged active and ready to push lift anything
Previously... i used 2 sleep 12 hours and even then i felt i needed more ... but now even if i sleep 5 6 hours it makes me fresh ...
Diet must b impressive in BB, and now i eat a hell lot and food is quickly digested than ever b4..
Mood swings ....well aggression is the negative part u get .... other than that confidence is increased ....
Overall , u keep health problems at distance and thats what my experience ... so i wud highly suggest that 2 my friends
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Andy,
Lil A is very interested in weight training and building some muscle. He has also experienced some decrease in appetite during that last month. Is it okay for an 11 year old to do some resistance training? I don't know if it can interfere with his growth. I think that it would give him more confidence and help him strengthen his bones more if he becomes stronger (he is quite strong and athletic now).
Thanks,
Sharmin
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Hi Sharmin,
I think that would be very good for little A. He will build strength he needs for sports and also improve his overall health.
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Thanks Andy:)
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Andy,
Lil A is very interested in weight training and building some muscle. He has also experienced some decrease in appetite during that last month. Is it okay for an 11 year old to do some resistance training? I don't know if it can interfere with his growth. I think that it would give him more confidence and help him strengthen his bones more if he becomes stronger (he is quite strong and athletic now).
Thanks,
Sharmin
Weight lifting doesnt really hinder growth ........ its actually the steroids that MAY stunt growth if used b4 mature age ....so theres no problem for LIL a to lift weights .... but dont u think 11yr old child is as much motivated towards BB???? cuz children of such age r more intersted in ruuning football cricket etc ??
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My son too was interested in carrying 1kg dumbles,but i remember asking a doctor about this and he told me it may hurt his muscle in this early age. I really have to check this because if it strengthen the bones, then it is worth it :huh
manal
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Our doctors advise not to do weight training, especially weight lifting in an upright position. This might produce heart disorders.
Lena.
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yeah not only will it make bones stronger but i am feeling things very differnently than b4...
ppl look at u in different way than b4 cuz of ur improved health ... i remember previously whenever i was in normal or casual dress , any girl wudnt giv second look. .... but now its the same guy with different hair cut,wearing 60rs. sunglasses n riding honda 70(bike) and there's no eye that didnt give 2nd look ..... ( i m a fundamentalist and dont look at girls cuz its prohibited but i just noticed it really ) ....
YOU look in different way to other's body ... men who were seen healthy by me are no longer that way and now its easy for me to point out weak or strong body parts of other ppl ...
Lets say cramps and pumps u feel in ur body parts is an Amazing feeling for me as it just let me feel that im Much much stronger n powerfull ...
I always feel charged active and ready to push lift anything
Previously... i used 2 sleep 12 hours and even then i felt i needed more ... but now even if i sleep 5 6 hours it makes me fresh ...
Diet must b impressive in BB, and now i eat a hell lot and food is quickly digested than ever b4..
Mood swings ....well aggression is the negative part u get .... other than that confidence is increased ....
Overall , u keep health problems at distance and thats what my experience ... so i wud highly suggest that 2 my friends
Waleed,
Thats great to hear :yes .
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Our doctors advise not to do weight training, especially weight lifting in an upright position. This might produce heart disorders.
Lena.
i believe doctors in pak believe the same. But one thing is for sure . There is really no experimentation on it .... now how does a thalassemic rat will lift weight to assess whether its beneficcial to humans or not lol ;) ... therefore, im myself doing experiment with my body as to how a thalassemic may react to weight lifting ... and ive found 9 kg of pure lean mass on my body ....
Heart disorders ??? i wud say its really amazing feeling when u lift Benchpress of 50kg for ur chest ....
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Hi Waleed,
Amazing. WOW, Though i am late to reply this post
You did Bodybuilding, Great.
You are inspiring
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i tried body building but after half an hour my muscles had burning pain and have to stop because of muscle pain do you get severe muscle pain while your training and if you do what do you do about it i have alpha thalassemia minor and am reasonably fit i do a lot of walking 10 klms per week average sometimes more klms i have started going to gym again but can only do 30 minutes training before i get sore can you help me out with feedback
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I will be checking next month with my son's cardiologist this point because what Lena was poiNing to in her post is an important remark. When weights are lifted in an upright position, all the blood is withdrawn out of the heart and this puts a lot of stress on the heart muscle when the hb is low
I will check this point and I will check also if the push ups could substitute weight lifting...II know this is an important issue especially for young men of our group
manal
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[In short!]
I have been doing bodybuilding as a hobby for a few years, including a strict diet plan. Basically my whole life centered around it and I always tried to push my body to its limit. I'm a minor and my main problem was that my body regenerated rather slowly after such a unit, which then even increased the fatigue I experienced every day.
I couldn't find any real research on that, I suppose that people who live healthy and do not have thalassemia don't really have a problem with the regeneration, so that's probably why. I found a post on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/xxfitness/comments/1exafp/can_weight_lifting_reduce_hemoglobin_levels/
It became a serious problem for me, because my school performance suffered a lot. Till today I am scared to start again for exactly that reason.
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I will be checking next month with my son's cardiologist this point because what Lena was poiNing to in her post is an important remark. When weights are lifted in an upright position, all the blood is withdrawn out of the heart and this puts a lot of stress on the heart muscle when the hb is low
I will check this point and I will check also if the push ups could substitute weight lifting...II know this is an important issue especially for young men of our group
manal
Manal,
I would say first of all that unfortunately there is very little information we have about affects of bodybuilding on Thalassemic patient. I have been weight training for quite a while and I have been more healthy in times when I was training than when I wasn't. Even if we accept that it is bad for heart to train at low Hb, what about going to gym only when your Hb is higher? When my Hb is high I hit gym with full intensity and as the Hb goes down I limit the intensity accordingly and if my hb is below 9 I do not train and wait for the transfusion. Earlier when I used to weight train, there was no impact on my Hb levels. However, after I had my gallbladder surgery my transfusion requirements have rose from 4 weeks to 3 weeks. My Hb now goes down in 3 weeks whether or not I goto gym and there are so many other factors in play that I cannot say the weight training/ body building actually is causing my Hb to drop faster.
I would say to all that it is already difficult enough for thals to even think about weight training/body building, so if any of the thals out there who are reading this post and are mentally strong enough to go and hit the gym I strongly advise you to go and do it. I personally never let Thalassemia come in my way and stop me from doing something I want to do. I did weight training and found it made me feel healthier than without it. Weight training increases the food appetite that in turn leads one to eat more and healthy food that would make up for already deficient nutrients in our body. I stop going gym when my hb reaches 9 or below and I always wish for that day when I wouldn't have to skip gym because of lower hb.