Thalassemia Patients and Friends
Discussion Forums => Miscellaneous Questions => Topic started by: Rani pk on May 07, 2007, 10:13:44 AM
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sallam n hi to all members
i want to know that do u guys hav any iformation about compact hb machine?
by wich v can cheack our hb at home...
i want to know where is it avaible n at wht cost?
pls help me in this regard
take care
wassallam
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Hi Aneela,
I had asked one of my medical equipment supplier for it but they denied of such equipment existing in Pakistan (at least in Rwp/Isl).
The smallest thing that I saw which can do this job is the blood analyser that is as high as a full tower desktop PC and in a cube shape.
Let me know if you find a portable version as I would also like to have one.
Take care, Peace!
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Hello, What is a compact HB machine.
Thanks.
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A compact Hb machine is intended for taking Hb readings at home.
A sample of a compact Hb tester can be seen at http://www.hemocue.com/index.php?page=3006
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I have seen compact HgB testing m/c for measuring haemoglobin only at stores such as CVS pharmacy etc. It costs approx $20-$25 but is good for only *one time use* only...which is expensive. I know in countries like India/Pak...this testing is pretty trivial and costs around $5 or may be less.
For those who don't know about CVS, CVS is a big pharmacy chain in USA.
Thanks,
Hallu
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Thanks Andy,
I am going to check with the doctor if it is feasible to have it available at home. However, I feel the use of cuvette is burdensome for a four year old who is on a regular desferal therapy.
Regards
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here you can find Compact Hb Machine in pakistan .....
Pakistan
S Ejazuddin & Co
236-C, Block 2, P.E.C.H.S.
Karachi 74000
Pakistan
Mr Majid Jamal
Business Unit Manager
Phone: +92 21 4537151, +92 21 4537254 Cell No. 0300-8239266
Fax: +92 21 455 3141
secodiag@cyber.net.pk
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Umair,
Do you have more details like product spec. and price for it?
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here you can find the price detail of hemocue's compact hemoglobin checker and its accessories..
http://www.le-west.co.uk/medical/HEMOGLOBINOMETER_HEMOCUE_AKA_HEMACUE_M1691.html
its just to make an estimate price ... you may ask to dealer near you ....to find out the dealer in your country please visit this link :
http://www.hemocue.com/index.php?page=41
select your continent and then select your country...
i think it is an all in one type of meter ( gluco meter + hemoglobin checker etc..etc..) bundled with diffrent test strips ( example .... blue is to check hemoglobin and red is to check BSL )....
i will sugest you to read complete specifications ....
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It's pretty expensive!
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yes it is .. as crono pump was .. it is not that much expansive but it is a little bit expansive plz check this link to find out some other compact hb checkers of other companies ...check it ...
http://www.medcompare.com/matrix/521/Hemoglobin-Testing-Systems.html
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hi
today i give a call to the guys of hemocue...
they have a direcion about 10 miles away from me...
they tell me more about the brandnew machine they have.
and they will help me to get one for free...
u can mess ur hb in one minute with only one drop of blood....
it sounds veri interresting and i dont have to go so often to
hospital to check hb-level.....
by the way....the cost normaly is 600 euros...about 950 dollars.
panos
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Wow, this is pretty great.
I wonder if I would drive myself crazy taking his hemoglobin all of the time :hmm :hmm
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Yeah that would be the case for me :huh
I called here in Pakistan and was told that it costs 20000 rupees.
Zaini.
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I may buy but probably would do once a week only. This is to take readings how fast the hg is declining in a week interval. However, whether this information is useful for the doctor or not we have to check or else we can go to Disneyland in Florida. :smiley
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i m agree to u all ... u alll r absolutely right ... but i mentioned a llink in my last post .. check that link hemocue is not one and only hb machine maker ... there r alot of other companies making the same device that thoose device ... well i want to add a comment that is ... this device can low your Hb when u r cheking ur hb ..it can happen bcoze of the price of the strip which will b used to insert in the device and droping blood drop on it ( which will b used to check Hb) .... hahhahaha. :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl it can happen not only with u... it can happen with me too . hhahahaahhah :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl Hb droper could b its (hb checker device's ) second name hahhaha :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl wat do u say ... plz let me know ...
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@nice -friend.
I just want to share the laugh :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Told ya I was crazy :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Kathy
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Well, it would be good for the blood drives. JSF shoves around their existing machine which is huge (sysmex). This could be an easy solution for them; but JSF checks the other variables of the CP too to screen for Thal. minors during the camps; I doubt this machine would tell the other attributes.
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sajid, i agree to you that it is suitable solution for healthcare professional ... it is realy good for blood camps purpose ..with it you can immediately test the Hb and can start procedure and other test so quickly.. and its a handy device .. soo alot of functions that suit for health care proessionals...but i think nobody claimed yet that it is show the exact results.. .it could b a point to think on and to discusss on ... we also have to remember the price of its strips for testing.... i want to mention here that it is not only Hb checker ..its a glucco meter aswell ... its a good technology but my oly concern abt is " its accuracy " ... an " strips price " ... it is not for home use bcoze i think that we feel the need to check Hb after a week or 12 day .... and its not a good choice to spend a big amount to check the hb twice a month only when u can check it from any lab .... soo i think its a good choice for only healthcare professional and the thalassemia center so they can decide who need to transfusion most (in case of when they r sending back the patients bcoze of blood shortage ) bcoze its quick.... i think i m right and dont need to askk wat do u say ..but its a good habbit to ask others too ...
soo what do u say guy ???...
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I hope it's allowed to bump this up?
I'm also searching for a compact hb machine.
Reason: the hospital were I partly grew up moved to the other side of the city. They also telling me that I can't have the results in an hour. First was the hospital 5 min from my home and I'd the results in 10 minutes. I can not travel always only for checking my hgb to Amsterdam (where my currently hospital is) Ofcourse I dislike this situation. Such machine is expensive, but there isn't an other possibility. Mostly in summer I got a more stable hgb, but at the moment it's very difficult to only check and delay the transfusion. To be short: I've had a lot of trouble with docs and hospitals. (That's the reason why I can not have transfusion in my city) I tried for ages to get the posibility to have transfusions at home. I organised everything, but they didn't want to give their signature. There are people who getting at home their transfusion though.
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Hi Dore ,
http://www.hemocue.com/index.php?page=41
here i quotesd the link again , it is the link for compact h machine .
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Hi! are we talking bout a hemometer? :dunno the kind medtechs use? :huh coz we have one like it. When we were younger my mom used to test our hemogobin to see whether it's time for a trip to the hospital and have another transfusion..... The kind we have is the smaller version which our favorite lab here is using...... we just buy the chemical that is needed in using it by bottle in the same lab we used to go for a hemoglobin test and other laboratory test. It was bought by my dad in abroad don't know where exactly..........
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Hi Lyanne ,
here are some pics of above mentioned Hb meter , ... and a link as well ..
http://www.hemocue.com/index.php?page=51
(http://www.hemocue.com/img/10/5474.jpg)
(http://www.hemocue.com/img/10/5472.jpg)
(http://www.hemocue.com/img/10/5477.jpg)
(http://www.hemocue.com/img/10/5476.jpg)
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My concern is it's accuracy,is this machine as accurate as a lab test?
Zaini.
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Zain ,i dont know about the result but i want to little chill here soo , i think that it will be as accurate as my Thal Center's Lab (on my Last Tx they showeed me that my Hb is 6.5 , which made me worrieed about hemolysis and other thing . but after a week yesterday i got a CBC tes and report in which my Hb is 9.5 ( Aga Khan Labs ) ... wat can i say more he hehheh .. i will post my CbC to interpret that realy soon) ...
TAKe Care
Umair
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There is also ''The Haemoglobin Colour scale'' that is a product by MEDIS one of the companies that had a booth in the Singapore conference.
This scale is like the one for diabitis, where you prick the thumb with a needle ( this needle can go deeper or shallower depending on how you put ) then you put this drop on certain strips then you compare the colour of the drop with a sacle given. This scale has a range of + or -- 2
The site for this product is
http://www.medis.it/hemoglob.asp
Also this company make pumps but they don't sell, but you can buy their products through distributers
manal
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Hi! oh i'm afraid ours is not like that. It's a smaller and done manually....... I guess that's more hitech :rotfl, thanx for the info anyhow, and accuracy of the hemometer depends on the one who's reading it I guess....... So one must know how to use the thing to be able to do give the right result............. :biggrin
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Zain ,i dont know about the result but i want to little chill here soo , i think that it will be as accurate as my Thal Center's Lab (on my Last Tx they showeed me that my Hb is 6.5 , which made me worrieed about hemolysis and other thing . but after a week yesterday i got a CBC tes and report in which my Hb is 9.5 ( Aga Khan Labs ) ... wat can i say more he hehheh .. i will post my CbC to interpret that realy soon) ...
Hi buddies ,
i was kidding , i dont know anything about its accuracy .. it was only for a little smile and nothing more .... i dont know anything abt its results and accuracy .... :grin