"Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"

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Hello!!! My Name is tpraval and i am from india. I am a 21 years old and thalassemia major patient. I had just done my splenectomy surgery two months ago. I had Hepatitis C reactivity since year 2007. My serum ferittin is about 8350.7 ng/ml after splenectomy. and want to start iron chelation therapy immediately because my doctor said that if i will not starting iron chelation therapy immediately, burden of extra iron in my body can causes liver, kidney, heart and other important organs damages. I was took 6-7 blood transfusion in a month before splenectomy and now i have take only two blood transfusion in a month after doing my splenectomy surgery. So what can i do to maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range? and control my HCV reactivity also? Please give me a proper guidance. I want your help immediately. Please give me a reply on "tpraval@ovi.com". I will eagrly wait for your kind reply.

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2011, 02:43:16 PM »
Hi tpraval,

Your ferritin is much to high and needs serious attention with chelation. What type of chelation drugs do you have available?
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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2011, 05:18:51 PM »
Very very thank you sir for your kind advice. I have available desferal, kelfer, asunra(exjade) and desirox in india. But i have taking asunra(exjade) as per 40 mg/kg/day dose as per my doctor advice and taking asunra(exjade) 1600 mg/day as 40 kg. of my body weight. Is this enough for removing extra iron from my body? and keep serum ferittin level in a normal range? Please give me a suggestion if i had not done enough for removing extra iron from my body. As a costly and painy treatment of desferal pump, i doesn't choose it.

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 05:41:47 PM »
For how long have you been using Asunra at this dose and have you seen any decrease in ferritin yet?
Andy

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 06:06:55 PM »
I had just starting asunra(exjade) on 22nd april 2011 after splenectomy and i had done my serum ferittin on 31st june 2011. According to this report my serum ferittin level was 8350.7 ng/ml. and then i haven't done any report after it. Before splenectomy my serum ferittin level was 7403 ng/ml. and not any chelation therapy ran at that time. Have you ever seen possibility that any differences in my serum ferittin level after a long time  iron chelation therapy?

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 06:54:21 PM »
If you are faithful with your chelation you will see your ferritin drop. You are on the maximum dose and should see results within 6 months. If the progress isn't fast enough after that, you should consider splitting the dose into two and taking half in morning and half at night, as this will give you a bit more chelation. Since you just started in April, you won't see any big changes in ferritin yet, but be assured that iron is being removed from your organs.
Andy

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 10:31:21 PM »
Good luck! We are here to motivate you!! Keep the good work going on. You do not experience any side effect from it? Otherwise i should advice to take it around 8PM. (not sure what your times for meals are though)

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2011, 06:35:59 AM »
Thank you very very much Andy sir for your important advice about my iron chelation treatment and i am also very thankfull to Dori ma'm for supports me to removing extra iron from my organs and body. I promise both of you that i will do my best for removing extra iron from my organs and body. Andy sir i have one more question related of splenectomy and the question is that "How long would i continue take pentids 400(penicillin g potassium) as a treatment of post splenectomy antibiotic prophylaxis? Because my doctor didn't mentioned any proper duration for taking this antibiotic prophylaxis as a treatment of prevent suspacted infection occured after splenectomy. I have taken pentids 400 twice daily. Please suggest me a proper duration of this antibiotic prophylaxis as part of post splenectomy treatment.

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2011, 04:48:06 PM »
Ask your doctor about the antibiotic. Formerly, lifetime daily antibiotics were recommended but in more recent years, the pneumovax vaccine has replaced daily antibiotics for many thals after splenectomy. Ask your doctor about this.
Andy

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2011, 05:13:37 PM »
Respected Andy Sir I had taken vaccines of pneumovax and HIb before my splenectomy surgery as my doctor suggestion. But still my doctor recommanded antibiotic prophylaxis for post splenectomy management. So how long would i take continue pentids 400 twice daily? and also that what can i do to control my HCV reactivity? Please give me a proper guidance.

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2011, 06:18:25 PM »
The general guidelines for prophylactic antibiotics after splenectomy is to take antibiotics for two years after the surgery, but again you need to ask your doctor about this. The vaccines have eliminated the need for lifelong antibiotics. I would greatly recommend that you take daily natural vitamin E supplements to counter the clotting issues that can occur in patients with no spleen.

I am a great believer is using natural remedies when possible and with HCV, there are several herbs that can help keep the infection dormant and under control. We have talked extensively about using the herb, nigella to control HCV.  See the thread at
http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php/topic,2639.msg24627.html#msg24627   and see Ambareen's instructions at
http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php/topic,2639.msg26081.html#msg26081

Red clover and milk thistle herb are also known to help the liver stay healthy, and milk thistle is often mentioned as an herb that can control HCV. Getting your ferritin reduced will also make it much easier to control.
Andy

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2011, 06:39:52 PM »
Thank you very very much for your imporatant advice about to control my HCV reactivity. I had just read the post that you have gave me a link. I will try this therapy to control my HCV reactivity. I will also ask my doctor about my antibiotic prophylaxis for post splenectomy management. Thanks once again respected andy sir.

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2011, 06:48:55 PM »
I promise that i will regular take 1/2 teaspoon cumin seeds or onion seeds with honey at early in morning and control my HCV reactivity.

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 06:43:30 PM »
Respected Andy Sir,
                           I had just done my S.Creatinine, B.Urea and SGPT reports as per monthly routine and the reports are as under.
                           S.Creatinine : 0.78 mg/dl ( Normal : 0.8 to 1.4 mg/dl)
                           B.Urea : 22 mg/dl ( Normal : 15 to 40 mg/dl)
                           ALT (SGPT) : 71 U/L ( Normal : 0 to 40 U/L)
According to this report S.Creatinine is mildly below from normal range and ALT (SGPT) is very high from normal range. I haven't any problem. So i have a one question related to this report and the question is that "Should i continue take Asunra (Exjade) at the dose of 40 mg/kg/day as my 40 kg of body weight or not? Please give me a proper and helpfull advice as soon as possible. I will eagrly wait for your kind advice and i will very thankfull of you.                           

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Re: "Maintain my serum ferittin level in normal range after splenectomy"
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 06:46:36 PM »
Yes, you can continue Asunra. The elevated ALT reading is only moderate. Asunra should be stopped when the ALT score is 5 times normal. Creatinine is more significant and all of the Exjade drugs should be stopped if there is a 33% increase in creatinine levels. You will also find that having the test done in the morning will usually give a lower ALT reading. Staying well hydrated is also quite important.
Andy

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