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Gaza massacre
Manal:
Hi Dore
*As for the picture you saw, it shows some celebrations of Shiaa who are also muslims but a different sector ( can't find the correct translation, but it is like in christinanity there are catholic, orthodox, protestant ...sorry for the spelling) Muslim sunni and Shiaa have almost everything in common except for one or two things, but sunni don't agree at all with the extremist shiaa as they differ in the belief itself and unfortunatly they are more seen in the media) This introduction to tell you that i can not comment on the picture since i am not shiaa
*answering your question about the holy months or sacred months. These months did not start by the begining of islam but they were known by at the time of prophet Ibrahim (Abrahm) and Arabs used to stop fighting during these months. When islam came , it contiued the same way and these months are Zul qada, Zul hegga, Muharam and Ragab. The first month was because it is the month right before pilgrimage and so you don't have to fight but rather prepare for the pilgrimage. The second month is the month of pilgrimage itself and the third month is the one that follows the pilgrimage. The fourth month which is ragab meaning the ''great''. Tribes in the past used to change the months to go with their own benefits as sometimes they want to raid in these months. This was stopped until Quran stated the exact names of these months as i mentioned them earlier. In those months you are not allowed to fight but you can defeat your self if someone fought you (self defense). In those months you are highly rewarded for your good deeds and vice versa.
* As for the site comparing the bible and the quran, i don't think it is a good idea as there is no point of compariosn they are totally different, that is my opinion, though i didn't understand anythin in dutch :rotfl
* As for muslims knowing about christianity, that is because you can not be a true muslim unless you believe in all prophets of God Jesues for christianity and Moses for the Jews, so we got to know the history, that is all
Will be happy to answer any thing that is not clear
manal
T @ r ! Q:
Dore,
According to wikipedia:
--- Quote ---According to local legend, Beit Hanoun was the capital of the Philistine King Hanoun who fought the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE.
--- End quote ---
So it appears that city got its name from the then King Hanoun
Dori:
Hallo,
I agree that the site is pretty strange. If you ask me it's made for some stupity (or racist) politicians/inhabitants of my country. I feel very ashamed for them.
Your spelling was ok, but I think we should name the Evangelicals (they are different than other protestants) as well.I live in the "Biblebelt" and the Orthodox and Evang. are pretty huge here.
@ Dutch and English has similar (and meaning) words like: warm and hand. But also the same words with different meaning, which i mess up from time to time.
I think I got the most chance to find a book form in Amsterdam, but i won't visit the city centre before friday 16th.
@ Tariq: I probably read not far enough at wiki :rolleyes
Groetjes, Dore
nice friend:
Hi Dore ,
pwhen you're going to buy Quran to read please make sure that is true Quran ... bcoze i heard that people and the lobies made several fake Qura' for propgenda purpose like one of those i know as Noble Quran and etc..etc...... soo please make sure that you are buying true one to keep ur mind safe from propogenda abt islam and its peaceful teaching ... if ou want to learn abt it you can contact to any mosque in your area , or in UK there are several mosques, organizations Pakistani's and Indian muslim communities that my help you alot to finding right books of islam especialy Quran Majeed ....
Best Regards
Take Care
Umair
Poirot:
Looks like everyone on this group is completely agreed about the bestiality of Israel.
Well, I am on the other side. I think Gaza had it coming.
1. Hamas illegally seized power in Gaza from Fatah, through the use of force - they are *not* the democratically elected government. Israel does not want to deal with Hamas, as Hamas' manifesto calls for the destruction of Israel. Surely, you would not want to deal with those who want to wipe you out? Are you not entitled to put a blockade on a set of people who threaten to destroy you? The moot question here is why does Egypt enforce the SAME blockade? Please answer me that.
2. Hamas has been sending rockets into Israel for the past ONE year - recently, they acquired the capability to hit more cities in Israel by smuggling in longer range missles from Iran. So, the threat to Israel went up.
3. Israel has called for Hamas not to attack it for the past one year. They have asked the people of Gaza to restrain Hamas. Do you not think that ONE year of warnings as enough?
Sure, Israel has attacked with overwhelming and disproportionate force - but, blame the Hamas for this action. They invited the attack. Is it any surprise that even the Arab nations are not in full support of Hamas?
I live in Mumbai where cowardly terrorists have killed over 375 people in two attacks between 2006-08. I am completely in agreement with Israel's policy - no one shall attack us continuously and get away with it.
RE: Oil and leverage - I have news for you folks - the Arab nations with oil have ZERO leverage left. I was in Oman in the last week of December on holiday, and in various GCC countries in the previous six months on business. The lifestyle of the locals (not just the sheiks) have to be seen to be believed - the local subsidies all run on oil revenues. There is no other industry, no other economy in the region. Even Dubai is now crashing and burning - their real estate is down 50% from the peak in Aug. So, you do not sell your oil, you do not have any money - you do not have any money, the locals will starve - if the locals starve, you have a revolution.
There is no way, repeat no way, that the GCC will EVER use oil as leverage.
RE: Pakistan - Zaini, I truly feel sorry for your country. Your country had some of the most fertile land of the Indus basin, rich cities, terrific culture, educated people. Your folks wanted a separate nation-state and you got it. However, in 60 years, your politicians, mullahs and army have virtually destroyed your nation. I am sorry to say this but balkanisation of your nation is inevitable - India does not even have to do anything, we will just watch, in pain. The path of hatred towards India that your army and your mullahs chose has brought the most educated muslim nation to this juncture. I truly feel sorry for Pakistan - it could have been a shining symbol of muslim pride, now it is a failed state.
Poirot
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